with the questions asked in this passage below is it possible with new knowledge of calstock as a fort 2011 and other more modern knowledge to update the theoies within it?
Is it possible that much of it lay outside provincial or diocesan control and that some kind of border was depicted on the Cosmographer’s map source as separating the south-western peninsula from the rest of Britain? In that case, Isca Dumnoniorum may have been prominent as a point of contact between the wilds of the far south-west and the more ‘civilised’ Durotriges (or Durotrages : the form of the name is very uncertain according to Rivet & Smith to the east . Inside this site the noted Roman areas do not seem to fit this revision with the one dig at Calstock : the Cornish Peninsula in qua britania plurimas fuisse ciuitates et castra legimus ex quibus aliquantas designare uolumus id est: Giano Barnstaple ? 10546 Eltabo River Taw 10546 , Elconio River Torridge ? , 10547 Nemetotatio North Tawton 10547 Tamaris Launceston ?
the question mark is from an old enquiry damnonia .blue would suggest Kings' Tamerton situated in plymouth for various reason , click link for why.... 10548 Puro coronauis ? 10548 Pilais ? 10549 Vernilis Liskeard ? 10549 Ardua rauenatone River Dart 10550 Deuionisso Statio ? 10551 deuentia steno Buckfastleigh Totnes ? 10551 , 10552 Duriarno Plymouth 10552 ?the question mark is from an old enquiry damnonia .blue would suggest plympton Vxelis Barnstaple ? 1061 Verteuia Land’s End 1061 = 1069 This group appears to take us on a general perambulation of the Cornish Peninsula and adjacent area. *Fl Taua, the second name, is clearly the River Taw (Ekwall 1928, 394; Thomas 1966a, 87; Rivet & Smith 1979, 470). *Nemetostatio is probably the fort at North Tawton, which is in an area where a group of modern names containing the elements Nymet and Nemet are found (Rivet & Smith 1979, 425).The identification of *Fl Conio with Ptolemy’s Κενίωνος ποταμοῦ ἐκβολαί (Geography II.3,3) made by Rivet & Smith (1979, 306) must therefore be questioned as the general progression seems to be from north-east to southwest.It may refer the River Torridge, although this is a Celtic name,derived by Ekwall (1928, 414) from a Brittonic *Torric-, ‘violent, rough’.*Glano should therefore be somewhere in north Devon,perhaps in the vicinity of Barnstaple. Tamaris,the Ταμάρη of Ptolemy (II.3,13), is a site on the River Tamar (Ekwall 1928, 389), perhaps at the crossing at Launceston, not the river itself, as the name recurs in the list of river-names (10748). *Durocornouio and Pilais Britannia in the Ravenna Cosmography: a reassessment K J Fitzpatrick-Matthews
Summary answer
Yes. New fieldwork at Calstock and recent reassessments of the Ravenna Cosmography make it reasonable and productive to update the theories in the passage—especially ideas about Roman military reach into Cornwall, the Cosmographer’s use of map-sources, and the status of Dumnonia, Exeter as a regional contact point 2.
Key updates supported by recent evidence
Calstock confirms a Roman fort on the Tamar— Excavation and geophysics demonstrate a genuine Roman fort at Calstock, large enough for a garrison and sited to control the Tamar corridor; this strengthens the argument that Roman military presence extended well into the south‑west peninsula and that such sites could have been visible features on map‑sources used by the Cosmographer 2. Sources: community excavation report and Exeter research project 2.
Cosmographer map‑use is plausibly cartographic rather than purely textual— Modern reassessments argue the Ravenna compiler used map-like sources and sometimes broke his lists according to perceived geographic shapes or boundaries; the discovery of prominent fortifications in the Tamar corridor makes a geographic/visual break around the south‑west peninsula more plausible.
Isca Dumnoniorum (Exeter) retains plausibility as a focal contact point— Isca’s continued administrative prominence (and its visibility on earlier sources) supports the idea that the Cosmographer, or his source, might have treated the Dumnonian territory as distinct or marginal relative to neighbouring civitates3.
Roman Cornwall was more connected than older narratives allowed— Finds such as the Mount Batten sequence, Mount Batten cemetery, coin evidence and the Calstock fort indicate a spectrum of Roman interaction from trade and coastal settlements to military installations; the old idea of Cornwall as uniformly unromanised should be nuanced to reflect patchy but significant contact and sites of strategic importance5.
Consequences for the specific theories in the passage
Border depiction on the Cosmographer’s map source— The hypothesis that the Cosmographer’s source depicted a border isolating the south‑west peninsula is now more defensible because visible military sites (e.g., Calstock) and a pattern of coastal sites could create a cartographic impression of a distinct zone 2.
Prominence of Isca as gateway— Evidence does not overturn Isca’s potential prominence; rather it strengthens the interpretation that Exeter functioned as a major contact/administrative hub between more romanised east and a variably romanised south‑west, making Isca a natural waypoint or label on map material.
Re‑reading Ravenna to locate toponyms— New field evidence (Calstock, Mount Batten, other coastal sites) invites revisiting identifications proposed for Ravenna names (e.g., Duriarno, Tamaris, Uxelis). Some previously tentative identifications should be re‑evaluated in light of local archaeology and river crossings rather than relying solely on old textual emendations2.
Dumnonia’s administrative status— Archaeological presence of forts and coin finds complicate the picture: parts of Dumnonia appear relatively autonomous and weakly romanised, yet strategic nodes show direct Roman investment or at least strong imperial interest; the passage’s suggestion that much lay “outside provincial or diocesan control” should be reframed as a mosaic: pockets of Roman control embedded within a broadly indigenous landscape.
Practical next steps for a rigorous update
Recompile Ravenna place‑list entries for the south‑west and map their possible coordinates against: (a) confirmed Roman sites (Calstock, Mount Batten), (b) coin findspots, and (c) palaeofords/crossings (Launceston, Plymouth fords)2.
Reassess individual identifications using Fitzpatrick‑Matthews’s reassessment as the methodological baseline and add recent field reports for calibration.
Use the Calstock excavation report and geophysics to test whether fort visibility and orientation could influence map layout or list breaks2.
Integrate place‑name, river name and landscape evidence (Tamar, Torridge, Taw, Dart) when proposing identifications rather than relying on single textual emendations4.
Publish a short note or conference poster showing how Calstock shifts priors about Roman presence and how that affects likely Ravenna identifications.
Sources to consult immediately: Calstock excavation/evaluation report and University of Exeter research page on Calstock2; Keith Fitzpatrick‑Matthews, Britannia in the Ravenna Cosmography: A Reassessment; background on Isca and Roman Devon/Cornwall syntheses4.
Suggested concrete changes to wording in your passage
Replace categorical statements that Cornwall/Dumnonia was largely unromanised with a sentence that explicitly notes a mixed picture: “Dumnonia displays areas of limited romanisation alongside clear evidence for Roman military and trade nodes (for example Calstock and Mount Batten), so map‑sources could treat the peninsula as distinct without implying total absence of Roman presence.” Cite Calstock and the reassessment of Ravenna when you make that change3.
If you want, I will draft an annotated version of the passage with inline suggested word‑level edits and the precise citations inserted where Calstock and Fitzpatrick‑Matthews change the balance of evidence.
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could you please draft an annotated version of the passage with inline suggested word‑level edits and the precise citations inserted where Calstock and Fitzpatrick‑Matthews change the balance of evidence
Annotated passage with word‑level edits and citations
Below I present the passage with concise, inline edits (insertions in double‑angle brackets «…», deletions struck through, and replacement words shown after an arrow →). Each paragraph that should be updated because of the Calstock excavations or Fitzpatrick‑Matthews’s reassessment is followed by a short annotation and a precise citation. Apply the edits directly into your working text.
Paragraph 1 (opening question)
Is it possible that much of it lay outside provincial or diocesan control and that some kind of border was depicted on the Cosmographer’s map source as separating the south‑western peninsula from the rest of Britain?
Annotation: retain, but add clarification that archaeological work shows a mosaic of control rather than a single “outside control” condition. Suggested insertion after the sentence: «Add: “Recent archaeology indicates a mosaic of local autonomy and targeted Roman investment rather than a simple absence of provincial control.”» .
Paragraph 2 (Isca/contacts)
In that case, Isca Dumnoniorum may have been prominent as a point of contact between the wilds of the far south‑west and the more ‘civilised’ Durotriges → Durotriges to the east.
Edit: replace “wilds” → “less densely romanised interior” and add phrase: «…and may have functioned as a formal administrative and communication hub rather than solely a geographic label.» Annotation: excavations and regional surveys emphasise Isca’s continuing administrative role and the existence of visible frontier nodes that map‑sources could highlight.
Paragraph 3 (Calstock and Roman areas)
Inside this site the noted Roman areas do not seem to fit this revision with the one dig at Calstock : the Cornish Peninsula in qua britania plurimas fuisse ciuitates et castra legimus ex quibus aliquantas designare uolumus id est:
Edit: after “one dig at Calstock” insert «—now demonstrably a Roman fort with geophysical and excavation evidence that increases the visibility of Roman military presence on the Tamar corridor» and add citation. Suggested wording: «…with the single dig at Calstock — now confirmed as a Roman fort occupying a strategic Tamar crossing — changing the prior balance of evidence in favour of a more visible Roman footprint in the Tamar corridor»1.
Place‑list block (Giano Barnstaple … Verteuia Land’s End)
Giano Barnstaple ? 10546 Eltabo River Taw 10546 , Elconio River Torridge ? , 10547 Nemetotatio North Tawton 10547 Tamaris Launceston ? … 10552 Duriarno Plymouth 10552 ? … Vxelis Barnstaple ? 1061 Verteuia Land’s End 1061 = 1069
Edits (general rules):
Surround tentative identifications with «prob.» or «tent.» and move speculative local notes into footnotes or bracketed comments.
After entries plausibly linked to river crossings (Tamaris, Elconio/Torridge, Fl Taua/Taw) add «(see river‑crossing emphasis in Cosmography; archaeological corroboration improves some identifications)». Annotation: Fitzpatrick‑Matthews’s reassessment recommends reordering identifications by likely map‑sequence rather than older textual emendations; Calstock strengthens locating military nodes near the Tamar crossing1.
Paragraph on Fl Taua / Nemetostatio / Fl Conio / Glano / Tamaris
*Fl Taua, the second name, is clearly the River Taw … *Nemetostatio is probably the fort at North Tawton …
Edits:
After “River Taw” keep as is.After “Nemetostatio is probably the fort at North Tawton” add «(tentative; confirm against excavation/field survey evidence).»
Replace sentence beginning “The identification of *Fl Conio…” with: «The identification of *Fl Conio previously associated with Ptolemy’s Κενίωνος ποταμοῦ ἐκβολαί should be treated with caution; a Torridge identification is plausible and better fits the NE→SW progression evident in the Cosmography’s sequence» → add citation to reassessment that reorders names by map progression.
Annotation: Fitzpatrick‑Matthews stresses ordering by map logic rather than uncritical Ptolemaic matching; apply cautious reassignments accordingly.
Paragraph on Tamaris / Durocornouio / Pilais / Vernilis / Deruentio
Tamaris, the Ταμάρη of Ptolemy … *Durocornouio and Pilais cannot now be identified. … <Vernilis> may be … Liskeard … The next name must be for *Fl Deruentione, the River Dart …
Edits:
After “Tamaris … perhaps at the crossing at Launceston” add «(emphasise crossing/settlement rather than river only).»
Replace “cannot now be identified” → «remain uncertain but should be re‑tested against recent finds and coastal settlement sequences (e.g., Mount Batten, Calstock)» and cite Calstock/Mount Batten relevance.
After “Fl Deruentione” add «(possible Buckfastleigh/Totnes corridor; treat as speculative until field correlation completed)».
Annotation: archaeological sequences at Mount Batten and Calstock affect confidence in identifications along the south Devon coast and Tamar corridor.
Paragraph on Cosmographer’s map breaks and romanisation
it is possible that Isca Dumnoniorum was depicted as prominent … Although this was not the primary reason for inserting a break … the Cosmographer was clearly sensitive to the depicted shape of the island. On the other hand, we should perhaps take into account the curious fact that the Civitas Dumnoniorum (basically the Cornish peninsula west of Exeter) appears to have been a part of Britain virtually unaffected by those changes to ‘elite behaviour’ usually termed ‘romanisation’.
Edits:
Replace “virtually unaffected” → «only partially romanised: exhibiting limited elite adoption of Romano‑urban behaviours overall, but containing discrete, strategically important Roman and Romano‑British sites (e.g., Mount Batten sequence; Calstock fort)».
Add sentence: «Thus the Cosmographer’s apparent break could reflect a cartographic impression produced by visible military and communication nodes rather than by wholesale administrative exclusion.».
Annotation: Use Fitzpatrick‑Matthews to justify map‑source sensitivity and Calstock as a visible feature that could prompt a list break.
Paragraph proposing border and Isca as gateway (restate)
Is it possible that much of it lay outside provincial or diocesan control and that some kind of border was depicted on the Cosmographer’s map source as separating the south‑western peninsula from the rest of Britain? In that case, Isca Dumnoniorum may have been prominent as a point of contact between the wilds of the far south‑west and the more ‘civilised’ Durotriges…
Edits:
Replace “much of it lay outside provincial or diocesan control” → «large parts appear to have retained local autonomy or low intensity of imperial administration, while specific corridors and nodes show clear imperial or Romano‑British activity».
Replace “wilds” → «less densely romanised zones».Add final clause: «This pattern makes it plausible that the Cosmographer’s source depicted a boundary‑like division, but the division indicates variable intensity of control rather than absolute exclusion».
Annotation: This phrasing preserves your interpretative thrust while aligning it to the nuanced archaeological picture influenced by Calstock and the reassessment of the Ravenna sequencing.
Short methodological note to insert near the end
Insert new paragraph: «Method note: identifications should be reassessed using (a) sequence and directionality of the Cosmography’s name‑order, (b) river‑crossing and road‑node emphasis, and (c) the recent archaeological dataset (notably Calstock and Mount Batten), which can increase the plausibility of Roman military/administrative readings for certain names».
Annotation: This summarizes the practical change Fitzpatrick‑Matthews urges and the contribution of Calstock to calibrating map‑source visibility.
Final suggested wording for your concluding sentence
Replace original concluding claim with: «Dumnonia presents a mosaic of low‑intensity romanisation punctuated by strategically sited Roman and Romano‑British installations; the Cosmographer’s source may therefore reflect a cartographic separation of the peninsula created by such visible nodes rather than a wholesale administrative border».
Annotation: This wording is precise, cautious, and aligned with the combined impact of Calstock and the Ravenna reassessment.
If you want, I will apply these edits directly to a single revised, clean version of the entire passage (tracking removed) so you can paste it straight into your draft.
